10400F vs 3600X STREAMING & GAMING
|As we saw with last week’s video, the 10400F generally beats the 3600X in 1080p gaming. That’s expected at this point. But, with its lower clock speeds and less performance per core, is it any good for streaming? Well, lets find out, but first if you haven’t already, consider subscribing for more videos every monday, wednesday and friday!
So let me lay out the test plan. We are playing at 1080p, and streaming at 1080p too. I asked you guys on a poll what we should test – the result was a resounding yes to both streaming to twitch, AND local recording so you can edit later. For the stream to twitch, it was the x264 encoder, 6000kbps bitrate, 30fps, and fast preset. For the local recording, that was OBS’ “high quality” preset, also the x264 encoder.
Games wise, I went with COD MW, and BFV as they were the most repeatable, and relatively modern titles. They were all at ultra settings, and I was playing with an RX 5700XT, just like the standard tests. Each performance run was done 3 times to average it out, and done at 180 second runs too.
So, that’s the tests, what about the numbers? Lets see..
COD MW | AVG | 1% Low |
10400f | 152.64 | 124.3781095 |
10400f stream | 146.6966667 | 83.79106041 |
3600x | 149.3 | 119.6172249 |
3600x stream | 134.6366667 | 60.75865626 |
BFV | AVG | 1% Low |
10400f | 132.0966667 | 116.5971446 |
10400f stream | 119.8433333 | 45.24150384 |
3600x | 127.61 | 113.6363636 |
3600x stream | 104.4333333 | 45.01579785 |
So it seems like the 10400F really runs away with this. I mean not only do you get a few FPS more at stock, but you lose significantly less FPS while streaming, even the 1% low is pretty decent, so case closed. 10400F wins, right? No. Nowhere near closed. Sticking with performance, lets look at a graph of frametimes over the 180 second runs while streaming.
So looking at the 3600X, you can see it’s a little jumpy, with the max being around 50ms for a frame, but overall fairly consistent.
When it comes to the Intel chip though, it’s more all over the place. Peaks over 70ms, and fairly inconsistent across the board, which means a worse actual playing experience for you. Although to be fair, it’s pretty close between the two, but there’s another reason for that..
Here’s the stream for the 3600X, pretty smooth, watchable. Good enough quality but certainly nothing to complain about. Here’s the 10400F’s stream. Yeah. Choppy, pretty much unwatchable. The quality isn’t too bad, but there just isn’t enough frames to be able to enjoy watching this. Now, the 3600X’s stream isn’t perfect, it lags a little in heated action in BFV, but the difference is the 10400F lags whenever you aren’t standing perfectly still.
Now, as with any tests you see on Youtube, there are a million factors you can change to remedy that if you do have a 10400F and want to stream, including using your graphics card’s hardware encoder instead, but the point is, if you want to stream, record and game, the 3600X is a better option. Plus it’s faster for rendering your edits too. Of course, the real price comparator to the 10400F is the 3600 non-X, which is something like 5% slower overall, but there’s two points there. First, 5% performance loss shouldn’t translate into much worse of a gaming or streaming experience, and second, the 3600 is unlocked, so you can just overclock it to 3600X levels of performance.
You can’t do that the the 10400F – heck you can’t even OC your RAM if you are running the H or B series motherboards, which unless you want to spend way more on a Z490 board just to run faster RAM – at which point why bother getting the 10400F – you are stuck with more limited performance. Oh, to clarify, I was using 3600MHz RAM for both, both with the XMP profile enabled.
So, if you just want to game at 1080p, or game and stream with the GPU encoder, the 10400F might, maybe, be a better option. If you want to game and stream with the x264 encoder, and especially if you want to edit and render your clips too, the 3600 or 3600X is a better option.
10400F on Amazon: https://techteamgb.co.uk/10400f
3600X on Amazon: https://techteamgb.co.uk/3600x