MSI Bravo 15 Review – Disappointing…

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MSI’s first Ryzen 4000 based laptop, the Bravo 15, is, for lack of a better word, disappointing. This could have been amazing, but it just isn’t. It’s display is poor at best, it runs hot, and has a trackpad I could swear was broken, if not for other reviewers pointing out the same thing. So, where did they go wrong? Lets take a look, but first, if you haven’t already, consider subscribing for more videos every Monday, Wednesday and Friday!

Lets start with the spec. This one is rocking a ryzen 4800H, 16GB of RAM and an RX 5500M for graphics, and sells for somewhere near $1000/£1000. Performance, as you might expect, is good, but not fantastic. Let’s take a look.

	AVG FPS	1% Low FPS
BFV	65.75	23.83222
COD MW	78.3	41.52824

	AVG FPS	Low FPS
PUBG	65.2	51
Fortnite	62.5	32

So, a competent CPU for video editing or 3d modelling, and a bit of gaming on the side, right? The temps might disagree. The CPU, while doing almost any intensive task, from gaming, to rendering in Blender, hit 95°c, and stayed there. The GPU wasn’t as bad, although did sit just shy of 90°c while gaming, but if we take a look at the bottom I think you’ll work out why. Can you see any way for air to get into the fans? No? Me neither. Much like the Asus A15 that Hardware Unboxed railed on recently, this one uses “indirect airflow” to cool the chips, and if we go a bit further and take the bottom panel off, you’ll see the actual heatsink for the CPU is miniscule, with only 1 direct heat pipe for the CPU, and has to share the tiny heatsink with the GPU too. So, no wonder it runs hot then.

I informed MSI of my results a number of weeks ago now, and have held off posting this video as I believed they were testing their own unit to see if they could confirm my results, but still haven’t replied. 

Ok, but that doesn’t matter all that much if it still works right? True, but it’d be nice to be able to see what you are looking at with at least some level of accuracy. The panel they use here is a 1080p, 120Hz “IPS Level” model which is laughable. My datacolor spyderx reported just 67% of the sRGB spectrum coverage, and a shocking 45% of AdobeRGB and DCI P3. Even when calibrated, you can’t trust this to be anywhere near good enough for anything to do with colours, video, photo or 3D. 

So, it’s just for gaming? Nope. The panel is also painfully slow. Black to White response time looks to be somewhere near 9ms, with white to black time being a shocking 27ms, meaning ghosting is very prominent. While gaming casually, I wasn’t overly bothered by it, but still that’s not good. Oh, and as for total system input lag, ie from a mouse click to a gun firing in game, that was 65ms or higher, which is a good 10-20ms higher than most other laptops I’ve tested.

And the bad news doesn’t end there. The track pad is a big let down here too. I have no idea how this happened, since this is just a rebadged GF65, but it feels like its broken. It feels floppy, when you go to tap it, it sinks out the way like you are pushing down to click, and when you do push down to click, the dead zone between it’s “full up” position, and the start of the click is like 5mm. It’s not a nice experience. 

The keyboard is better, it’s now a more chiclet style design which I wasn’t a fan of at first, but grew on me impressively quickly. Definitely nice for gaming on. And the I/O isn’t the worst either, although strangely they now only have 2 USB A ports only on the right hand side, and now 2 USB Type C ports, also on the right, with only DC in and HDMI on the left. I think at this sort of budget price point I would rather have had more type A ports, especially some on the left and side, over another type C port. 

Battery life isn’t fantastic. While they claim 7 hours of usage, and I’m sure with the right settings and very light usage it can do that, if you load up a game or do anything even remotely intensive, it’s miniscule 51Whr battery means you get under an hour of life out of it. 

So, if it isn’t obvious, I can’t recommend anyone buy this. The CPU itself is great, but pretty much everything else around it is mediocre at best, and even for this “budget” price point, MSI could have done much, much better here. Sadly, I’m not sure the Asus A15 is any better, so we are going to have to wait for some better options to become available, and for manufacturers to stop pretending Ryzen CPUs are just “budget” options, and offer them in some mid to high end setups.