1st Gen Ryzen in 2021 – Still good?
|Now it’s 2021, and Ryzen 5000 series CPUs are out, I thought it would be good to take a look back at Ryzen 1000 series CPUs to see how they perform, especially with a higher end GPU. I’ve got numbers for gaming, of course, and plenty of productivity tests too, and I threw in a Ryzen 3600X for comparison too. So, lets see if they are still good, or worth upgrading from! But first, if you haven’t already, consider subscribing for more videos every Monday, Wednesday and Friday!
The idea I was going for here was since so many people are looking to upgrade their GPUs to 3060ti/3070/3080 level cards, either from NVIDIA or AMD, but will be pairing them with their now ‘old’ first gen Ryzen chips, I would compare them using a 3070 level card. Sadly, I don’t have a 3070, so a 2080ti will have to do. I should make it clear that everything else stayed constant, the same RAM, although it was run at 2800MHz for the first gen chips as they couldn’t handle 3000MHz with 4 sticks, I used the same 240mm AIO too cool them, same driver versions and all that.
So, the data. Lets start with games at 1080p.
COD MW | COD MW | Watchdogs Legion | Watchdogs Legion | Cyberpunk 2077 | Cyberpunk 2077 | Fortnite | Fortnite | |
1080p AVG | 1080p 1% Low | 1080p AVG | 1080p 1% Low | 1080p AVG | 1080p 1% Low | 1080p AVG | 1080p 1% Low | |
1800X | 161.26 | 107.4113856 | 76 | 55 | 69.85 | 41.25412541 | 164.76 | 99.9000999 |
1700X | 146.9 | 105.4852321 | 63 | 45 | 59.26 | 35.38570418 | 143.09 | 87.79631255 |
1600X | 136.81 | 96.89922481 | 61 | 42 | 61.71 | 36.19254434 | 138.59 | 86.20689655 |
1600 | 130.53 | 96.52509653 | 57 | 40 | 51.39 | 28.24061 | 127.87 | 79.36507937 |
3600X | 174.44 | 129.5336788 | 85 | 64 | 83.49 | 53.16321106 | 193.09 | 118.7648456 |
Somewhat unsurprisingly, the performance you get depends on how high end you went with your CPU. The 3600X, which would now get bested by a 5600X, offers on average 15% more performance at 1080p than the 1800X, enough to make Cyberpunk actually playable at ultra, although I’d still turn some settings down there anyway. Comparing part for part, 1600X to 3600X, you get anywhere from 20% to 40% more performance, which is crazy.
That’s all well and good, but a lot of people who are buying these cards are also getting 1440p high refresh rate monitors too, so how do they perform there?
COD MW | COD MW | Watchdogs Legion | Watchdogs Legion | Cyberpunk 2077 | Cyberpunk 2077 | Fortnite | Fortnite | |
COD MW | 1440p AVG | 1440p 1% Low | 1440p AVG | 1440p 1% Low | 1440p AVG | 1440p 1% Low | 1440p AVG | 1440p 1% Low |
1800X | 133.89 | 87.41258741 | 69 | 53 | 63.46 | 38.44675125 | 141.58 | 88.73114463 |
1700X | 130.13 | 94.60737938 | 61 | 42 | 60.54 | 35.79098067 | 134.3 | 81.63265306 |
1600X | 131.67 | 93.5453695 | 58 | 42 | 55.91 | 35.12469266 | 133.24 | 81.43322476 |
1600 | 125.97 | 88.73114463 | 58 | 41 | 47.65 | 26.2605042 | 128.27 | 79.8084597 |
3600X | 128.83 | 105.1524711 | 67 | 50 | 65.26 | 46.31773969 | 139.55 | 95.51098376 |
At 1440p, the difference is a lot less noticeable. Sure, you still get a benefit going for a 3600X over a 1600X, but the gap is a lot closer. What’s also interesting is how bottlenecked the performance was at 1080p, by comparison. A number of the results were basically identical at 1440p and 1080p with the older chips showing a severe limitation there.
So that’s gaming, what about productivity performance? Well, in Cinebench single threaded, the 3600X blasts them all, with the 1600X being the standout from first gen. Yes the 1800X is faster, but not by much. In multi-threaded, it plays out like you’d expect, except for the 3600X. Thanks to its faster single threaded performance, it actually matches the 8 core 1800X with it’s just 6 cores. I didn’t expect to see that.
Blender BMW | Blender Gooseberry | Premiere 10m Render | |
1800X | 251 | 1366 | 448 |
1700X | 261 | 1512 | 464 |
1600X | 330 | 1953 | 461 |
1600 | 355 | 2066 | 454 |
3600X | 261 | 1306 | 419 |
In more real world workloads, the Blender BMW render test has the 1800X just winning out, with the 3600X and 1700X tying second. The 1600X is a decent bit behind, then a short gap to the non-X 1600. Gooseberry shows similar results, although the 3600X wins by a full minute here, then a couple minutes gap going down the stack. The Premiere render was a lot closer. The 3600X does still win, although all the 1st gen chips pretty much tie, which was interesting.
If you are wondering about power draw, the 3600X drew 85W, the second lowest only beaten by the lowest performing chip, the 1600. The 1600X drew 100W, 1700X 112W, and the 1800X up at 125W.
So, if you are upgrading your GPU, do you need to upgrade CPUs as well? If you are gaming at 1080p, you will see a significant performance boost from even a 3rd gen Ryzen chip. If you can score a 5600X or similar, that would be a massive jump, but stock may make that difficult. If you game at 1440p, the gap is a lot closer meaning it’s not as essential. And if you do 3D modelling or video editing, it might be worth considering, even going 3rd gen, as the performance uplift there is pretty decent.